Yes, it's a case of a poor thing, but mine own. I kind of enjoyed doing it, though. So I may continue. I know there's a way to make the back side look as nice as the front. How that's done I have no clue. Also, the knot situation baffles me. I have a book called The Embroiderers Handbook by Margie Bauer. But it only has a page or two of introduction and then moves into stitches, ones that seem complicated to me. I think I need an additional book, a basic one. Or maybe I should check YouTube.